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will h
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18th Sep 05 at 14:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

as posted before i have changed the valves and the gasket on my 1.2 8v engine because the timing belt went.Changed the distributor cap and a new battery.Had the ecu tested and the alternator was fine.Car was up and running perfectly.But there was a loose earth on the alternator which made my battery die.

Car Now wont start at all,it will turn over but There is no spark,no Fuel at the carbaretor,Exchanged the coil.Took out fuel Pump and wired it directly across a battery and it didnt work.The Battery Light is coming on when im starting the car?wondering why

Just really baffled to what it could be,Car as i said will turn over but there is no spark but it worked fine prior to the battery change.As my car is a single injection engine,there is no crank sensor so thats ruled that out.

Here is what we have tested:

ECU-Passed
Alternator-Passed
Wiring
Fuel Pump relay has got power

Please could some help cause were really stuck

Thanks


[Edited on 18-09-2005 by will h]
ShEp
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18th Sep 05 at 18:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

check battery voltage again, the check for voltage drop across alternator/starter, etc...

also another cheeky way of doin somethin is, take the pipe off that goes into the airbox or into the airfilter, and spray brake cleaner in it as sum1 is cranking it over, sometimes it might just need that little jump to get it to work, thats what i did with mine.

i replaced the head on my 1.2 8v as i snapped the belt during some high jinx in the local industrial estate, put the head on built everything up but it wouldnt start, gave it the brake cleaner treatment and its still going today, albeit not in my possesion tho
Ally
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18th Sep 05 at 18:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Does the diagnostic light stay lit while you are cranking the engine or does it go out?
will h
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by diagnostic light you mean the thing which looks like a spark plug,it doesnt even come on when i turn it over,nor does the battery light
chr15barn3s
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19th Sep 05 at 10:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Has the belt been put back on right?
will h
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yeah it was running fine till the battery died becasue the alternator wasnt charging the battery,this problem we think has been sorted due to a misplaced earth but now there is no spark at all
will h
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19th Sep 05 at 22:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

same prob on mine it was the crank sensor
will h
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only problem fozzy is that mine is a single injection engine,1.2 8 v,it dont have a crank sensor
will h
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20th Sep 05 at 17:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

someone,anyone?
will h
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you have put the coil to distributor wire back on yeah? and there is a rotor arm under the distributor cap?

also did you replace the fuel pump that doesnt work?

i know there simple things but very easy to over look to...

[Edited on 21-09-2005 by Siberia]
will h
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yeah thats all done bar buying a new fuel pump because they are blommin exspensive,wanna rule evrything out b4 i go out buying one of them
will h
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Angie
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22nd Sep 05 at 10:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I have a 1.2 8v and I had the exact same problem and it was a blown fuse that was stopping the fuel pump from working.
If the car is turning over I don't think the problem could be battery related.

I think that it's worth getting a new fuel pump as it seems to be the only option left




will h
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Thats the scary thing,its looking more like a new fuel pump ,wud that cause the batery light not to come on in the dash and for the plugs not to spark?
Angie
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If the fuel pump doesn't work there is no fuel to make the sparkies spark.
Look at it this way;
For the car to start you need petrol to ignite. If there is no spark it could be several things stopping it.

1. There is nothing to ignite (i.e petrol)
2. There is no spark there which could be HT leads, spark plugs, and all things connected to those (dizzy cap, rotary arm etc).
Or it could be your battery.

If you know that all those things that create the spark are working and we know the battery works as the engine turns over then we need to check anything connected to the petrol pump. You could have a blocked fuel line or no petrol.
You know that the pump doesn't work as you connected it to a battery and it didn't work. Therefore you need to change that anyway.

I hope that makes a bit of sense :S
will h
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22nd Sep 05 at 14:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Thanks for your help angie
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No worries! We 1.2 8v owners have to stick together!
Let me know what happens

 
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